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Old December 5th, 2009, 05:59 PM   #76
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Is Farmville anything like Harvest Moon?
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Considering that games like Farmville and Mafia Wars have millions of users, it'd be hard to argue that gaming hasn't gone "mainstream".
Not denying the statement that online gaming isn't mainstream but come on... you're comparing Facebook games with XBL games. Huge difference. Most Facebook games aren't exactly multiplayer. Bejeweled Blitz simply compares high scores and post rewards on your wall.
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Is Farmville anything like Harvest Moon?
basically farmville and cafe world are games where you plant or cook things, to gain exp and coins, and you expand your farm or cafe by spending the coins you've earned , or you can even pay real cash for something they call farmville cash or cafe bucks

it's a way to get exclusive items to decorate your farm or cafe

it's a winning formula for them because so many people play it, and a percentage of them actually spend real money to buy fake coins or farmville cash/cafe bucks just to decorate their layout

IMO it's a perfect gateway drug for getting the average non gamer into serious gaming

but they probably won't get into serious gaming because this is just something basic and ease of use when they're at work and killing time, like why the apple's app store works so well
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Not denying the statement that online gaming isn't mainstream but come on... you're comparing Facebook games with XBL games. Huge difference. Most Facebook games aren't exactly multiplayer. Bejeweled Blitz simply compares high scores and post rewards on your wall.
true while they aren't multiplayer, they do allow friends lists, and you and your friends are able to manipulate each others farm to an extent , and send gifts to each other and shit, but aside from comparing levels, there is no real multiplayer
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yeah famrville sucks compared to harvest moon.
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I decided to watch the trailer for the new one about owning a shop, dear god does that look awful.
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Isn't that the context we're really talking about though? I mean when the comment was made that "online gaming wouldn't catch on in the mainstream market", wasn't the market you were talking about the gaming market? I'm not being argumentative or accusatory, I just really thought that that was what you meant. And I think that's what others assumed as well.
I defiantly was talking about the gaming market. And its still not mainstream among gamers. Look at the number of consoles out there and look at the number of people who play games online on a regular basis. Its a relatively small section of gamers. Most people who buy consoles dont play online or even care about it. Even the 360 which has focused the most on online gaming, only boasts about half of its users being active online. The Wii has almost completely ignored the online gaming component and it is destroying everything in terms of sales.

But its really a pointless argument, at least on these forums. Most of the people here are pretty hardcore gamers. They are in too deep. They have an online gaming Stockholm syndrome.
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I defiantly was talking about the gaming market. And its still not mainstream among gamers. Look at the number of consoles out there and look at the number of people who play games online on a regular basis. Its a relatively small section of gamers. Most people who buy consoles dont play online or even care about it. Even the 360 which has focused the most on online gaming, only boasts about half of its users being active online. The Wii has almost completely ignored the online gaming component and it is destroying everything in terms of sales.

But its really a pointless argument, at least on these forums. Most of the people here are pretty hardcore gamers. They are in too deep. They have an online gaming Stockholm syndrome.
So I'm curious then, what would be your definition of a mainstream game? By your own account, half of Xbox 360 users playing games online does not constitute mainstream. So by your account, there's no such thing as a mainstream game? It just looks like you're being stubborn because one of your predictions (one that I actually would have agreed with at the time) didn't come true.
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So I'm curious then, what would be your definition of a mainstream game? By your own account, half of Xbox 360 users playing games online does not constitute mainstream. So by your account, there's no such thing as a mainstream game?
The 360 is only one of the 3 current consoles on the market though. Half of one of the the big 3's installed base (and the smaller percentage of the Wii and PS3 base) still isn't the majority of gamers. I think that's what he's getting at.

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The 360 is only one of the 3 current consoles on the market though. Half of one of the the big 3's installed back still isn't the majority of gamers. I think that's what he's getting at.

It's bad enough that it's TRUE when I say it.
I agree that it's not the majority of gamers. Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought that he was saying that it hadn't gone mainstream. If something must be the majority in order to be called mainstream, then few things ever would be considered mainstream.

I suppose every person has their own definition of it. By my standards, online gaming on consoles has gone mainstream amongst gamers. It's not as common on the Wii, but both the PS3 and 360 have a sizeable base of online gamers. It's not the niche that it was in the XBand/Saturn/Dreamcast days. Nor is it the flop that I and many others expected when the original Xbox launched ONLY supporting broadband internet connections.
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I agree that it's not the majority of gamers. Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought that he was saying that it hadn't gone mainstream. If something must be the majority in order to be called mainstream, then few things ever would be considered mainstream.
Oh I agree you, but I think that's where his argument was heading.
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Lets just forget about mainstream. He said online gaming will be nothing more than a niche market.

Online gaming isn't niche, not by a longshot.
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And it's a pc game, so that's completely irrelevant to this conversation.


77 million 360's out there only about half have live accounts.

that number includes silver accounts (which of course you can't play games with) and the fact that you need a gold account to use non gaming things like Netflix (which statistics show people use more than anything http://allthingsd.com/20130211/xbox-...sed-by-dudes/). And remember that is the most online multiplayer focused console out there. The best selling console of this generation is the Wii and it has nowhere near the emphasis on the online component.

Just because you like it doesn't make it true.
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And it's a pc game, so that's completely irrelevant to this conversation.


77 million 360's out there only about half have live accounts.

that number includes silver accounts (which of course you can't play games with) and the fact that you need a gold account to use non gaming things like Netflix (which statistics show people use more than anything http://allthingsd.com/20130211/xbox-...sed-by-dudes/). And remember that is the most online multiplayer focused console out there. The best selling console of this generation is the Wii and it has nowhere near the emphasis on the online component.

Just because you like it doesn't make it true.
So with the PS3, 360, and games on the PC like League of Legends, Diablo 3 and World of Warcraft you have roughly 120 million people playing online.

That number is still niche to you?
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So with the PS3, 360, and games on the PC like League of Legends, Diablo 3 and World of Warcraft you have roughly 120 million people playing online.

That number is still niche to you?
My guess is that his argument is that many of those 120 million people (in out region) playing those games online are the same people across multiple platforms (he'd most likely be right about that), and that it's still not the majority of console gamers this generation. I'm just playing devil's advocate here.
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