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Old June 10th, 2013, 10:20 PM   #1
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[GamaSutra] Sony: No restrictions on preowned PlayStation 4 games

Sony has confirmed in its E3 press conference that there will be no restrictions on preowned games for the PlayStation 4, and no online authentication for single-player games. ...


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I bet this alone sells many PS4s.

Which system do you think Gamestop is going to give more shelf space? The one that threatens GS's business model, or the one that doesn't (or doesn't overtly do so)?
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I bet this alone sells many PS4s.

Which system do you think Gamestop is going to give more shelf space? The one that threatens GS's business model, or the one that doesn't (or doesn't overtly do so)?
When I called GameStop today to see if they still had some preorders left.

They answered the phone "Hello this is GameStop where you can preorder the Playstation 4".
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"The DRM decision is going to have to be answered by the third parties, it's not something we're going to control, or dictate, or mandate, or implement," Tretton added.
So might see the situation where 3rd party games will require a code, while Sony games will be the only titles without DRM.
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The way they said it today sounds like online passes still
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Publishers of PS4 games, then, can do what's already done on existing PlayStation software: Limit or lock content behind online passes or redemption codes (or opt out of restrictions altogether), which differs from Microsoft's limited licensing of Xbox One software.

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Well, online passes are nothing new being introduced to the PS4. It's lame, but eh...
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The way I see it (and I could be Completely Wrong) but, all games will eventually go the way of DRM. It sucks but its true. I hate the fact, that IF i buy my son an XB1, so we can play games together, He cant try games that I have without logging in to my account. That is the dumbest shit i have ever heard of.

BUT, I fucking HATE! the PS3 controller, and it looks the same as the PS4 one. My ps3 is dusty as hell, but I still got it. I will probably get an PS4 eventually, I just cant stand the controller.

The price thing is no big deal, as an early adopter, I expect to pay a little more for a system. If you want Video for PS4 you have to buy the camera, that's an extra 59 bucks, and if you want move motion shit, probably another 50-100 clams... so in the end your going to pay about the same as an XB1.

And I really think especially after hearing the Activision guy talk, there will be some sort of DRM on the PS4. the fact that the ps4 pres said they were not pushing it, does not mean developers will not require it in some shape or form. So Maybe you will be able to trade First party titles in the ONE step, but this may not be true of all games on the PS4. I think Destiny will be one such game.

DRM really does not affect me, because I dont usually trade in or sell my games, never had a Gamefly account or anything so not really bothered. I just want to have fun with my friends.

Another thing that bothered me is even before the PS4 was shown they were talking about the size of the XB1. The ps4 maybe a little slimmer, but it looks almost Identical just slanted. Down to the color scheme. but do you hear bitching... nope.

Either way, Im not going to let DRM sully my gaming experience. I hope to see you guys online either way. I know Ill be adding Game Rogue hope to add some of the rest of you guys too this fall.
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I can't even front. This may be a PS4-based gen for even me. There is ALWAYS the chance of owning both... but if the games are better controllable on the PS4 AND look better, then it's a no brainer. I'm still not jumping to pre-order though...
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I pre-ordered on amazon, i can cancel at anytime.
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I pre-ordered on amazon, i can cancel at anytime.
Someone I know pre-ordered both. He won't be cancelling at all.
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BUT, I fucking HATE! the PS3 controller, and it looks the same as the PS4 one. My ps3 is dusty as hell, but I still got it. I will probably get an PS4 eventually, I just cant stand the controller.
You know I see people say this all the time and it honestly baffles the shit out of me. I have never felt one way or another about a controller, let alone felt strongly enough to have it prevent me from playing a system. I don't even notice the controller when playing games. I could honestly be holding a square chunk of rock and it wouldn't even phase me when playing.
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The PS3 controller is pretty poor for shooting games.

The PS4 controller looks like an improvement, but still needs better stick placement.
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Ditto. I play for hours at a time on the PS3 with no issues. If it's such a big deal, buy a third party controller.

I do slightly prefer the 360 controller's left analog positioning. That said, everything else about the PS3's controller is better, IMO.

I want to try the Wii U's standard controller. It looks neato.
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The PS3 controller is pretty poor for shooting games.
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Ill have to take your word for it. I have played shooting games on every system and they all feel the same to me. Actually they don't feel like anything because I don't even notice the controller when playing. Its seriously a completely foreign concept to me. In my almost 30 years of playing video games I don't think I have ever thought about or noticed anything about a controller in that sense. I just pick it up and play the game then set it down when I'm down. That's really the extent of it for me,

Maybe because I was raised on the NES which was just a big lego block so everything since has just automatically been better haha.

I'm honestly curious. What makes it so poor in your eyes?
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I guess I'm in the minority in that I prefer the Dualshock's stick placement. If I play on an XBox controller for a couple hours or so it causes enough strain in my left thumb that I need to stop playing, I've never had that same issue with the Playstation controllers.
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Back to the original topic in this thread, I just came across this GiantBomb interview with Sony's Scott Rohde and he says that online passes are gone with PS+ now being a prerequisite for online play. Listen to the audio in the link above (its discussed right at the beginning) for a more thorough explanation.
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The 360 controller is just so much 'better' than the dual shock is all. It's hard to go backwards...
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You know I see people say this all the time and it honestly baffles the shit out of me. I have never felt one way or another about a controller, let alone felt strongly enough to have it prevent me from playing a system.
Ok, I have larger hands, the position of the thumb sticks being so close together, SUCKS. there is no other way to put it. My hands will cramp after long play sessions. When I was younger, I used to play for hours, as I got older, the controller got harder to use. and just felt awkward as I held it and it cramped the FUCK out of my thumb joints Just not a fan.

I am just sick of hearing the complaints I guess. I have both systems and preferred the 360.

The always on complaint is stupid, if you have an apple tv, a roku box or anything like that, They are always on, but people dont complain.

The XB1 looks like a VCR... and? the PS4 looks the same just slanted. and a little slimmer. Big deal. It seems like people are just looking for a reason to bitch. DRM is coming to both systems like it or not. Sony may not do it with their first party games, but that JT guy said, it's up to the publishers to do what they want with DRM.

I think I will end up getting both systems after launch but initially my XB1 will be played (especially since I already Pre-ordered) but when I do get a PS4, i will def need a better controller... seriously!
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The always on complaint is stupid, if you have an apple tv, a roku box or anything like that, They are always on, but people dont complain.
Those devices don't have always on cameras and microphones in your living room, bedroom, den, etc.
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Those devices don't have always on cameras and microphones in your living room, bedroom, den, etc.
All of these can be turned off.
The complaint was about always on internet.
I mean, that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Apple TV (always online) Roku Box (Always Online) Cell phone (Always Online) PC (turned on always online).

I guess the complaint was that you have to be online to be able to play single player, and Yeah, I agree that should be addressed, because people may not always have access to the internet, and should not have to suffer for it. That is my only problem with "Always On" well, at least once every 24 hours is still BS for single player. But again, I'm not letting that stop me from getting a XB1
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The xbox 360 controller is far superior, but i can manage on the PS4 one, it's further apart, which is nice.


Also anyone else think the XBOX1 controller looks a lot like the xbox S controller?

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