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Sony They've led sales in the last console generation and are working on the next with the PS3. Will that and the PSP keep them moving at the top of the pack? Discuss it here.

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Old November 8th, 2005, 06:34 PM   #1
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PS3 Won't Play Used Games?

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PlayStation 3 won’t play used games?
Posted Nov 8, 2005, 4:45 PM ET by James Ransom-Wiley
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The latest rumor, generated from several patent sites, claims that Sony has secured a patent for a disk technology that prevents the use of used, as well as pirated, software. From the registered patent description:

”A device and method for protection of legitimate software against used software and counterfeit software in recording media… A specific title code is read, and if this title code has been registered, the main unit shifts to a normal operation. If the code has not been registered, verification software is initiated… If matching does not occur, the disk is processed as illegitimate software… Since only titles for which legitimate software has actually been purchased and which have been initially registered in the machine table can be used, resale (so-called used software purchase) after purchase by an end-user becomes practically impossible.”
Does Sony plan to employ this technology in the PlayStation 3? Not likely. If so, PS3 owners would not be able to rent (used) games or borrow their friends’ games—or even purchase used games! Sure, the technology could be used for Blu-Ray movies, but for games? It just won’t go down like that… right?

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Old November 8th, 2005, 09:19 PM   #2
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that sounds gay.
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Old November 8th, 2005, 11:00 PM   #3
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How is that even possible? So you wouldnt be able to take your game to a friends house on a different PS3 cuz to his sytem it would be 'used'?
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Old November 8th, 2005, 11:35 PM   #4
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Wouldn't this also require connecting to the internet each time a disc was inserted?
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sounds even worse for blue dvd players, apperently that will be the industry standard.


i go buy a blue-ray player, and 100 movies.

the blue-ray player breaks....so my 100 movies are now worthless?
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Wouldn't this also require connecting to the internet each time a disc was inserted?
Just for the "activation". After that, information should be stored on a memory card or some internal memory.
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Wouldn't this also require connecting to the internet each time a disc was inserted?
Just for the initial "activation". After that, information should be stored on a memory card or some internal memory.
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This is a flat-out dealbreaker for me. I will simply not buy a PS3 if they institute this idiotic bullshit. Period.
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I like how they named the article "PlayStation 3 won’t play used games?" even though there is really no mention of this technology having anything at all to do with the PS3 and in fact they say themselves that its not very likely.

I also found it odd that they didnt mention that Sony filed for this patent over 5 years ago.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...gi+AND+AN/Sony


Also if you read the patent, it seems that this is nothing more than a measure to gaurd against making copies of games and really has nothing to do with what the article talks about. But I may have misinterpreted that.
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Well, according to what they had to say about it on Attack of the Show today, it will mean no rentals. I hadn't connected the dots to no used games, because I don't rent. At that point in the day, I was more interested in the happy edge of the sword which is that the PS3 is supposed to be region-free, which means I can finally get wacky Japanese niche games.
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Well, according to what they had to say about it on Attack of the Show today, it will mean no rentals. I hadn't connected the dots to no used games, because I don't rent. At that point in the day, I was more interested in the happy edge of the sword which is that the PS3 is supposed to be region-free, which means I can finally get wacky Japanese niche games.
How would blu-ray take off without rentals?

The only protection so far on PS3/blu-ray is that you can't copy them or stream them with a PC. They can't just slam a no rental on it without the consent of the movie studios. Not the way they've been cutting these deals.
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I'm just sayin' that's what they reported on AOTS. I'm sure there are ways to do it with games and not movies. I'm not making any decisions, but I'm watching with a wary eye.

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I will not purchase another Sony product if they implement this policy.
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I will not purchase another Sony product if they implement this policy.
PC software developers been doing this along time with product keys.
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they will they decided not to put the drm in it
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